Replying To The vegetarian myth

pax

Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:38 PM

Floyd, on 05 October 2011 - 06:15 PM, said:

Well, the part about animals being able to eat things people can't and being grown on land unsuitable for growing crops is true. Our cows eat nothing but grass, and whatever else grows that they can stomach. The land is rough and full of rocks, and has had most of it's nutrients farmed out of it in the 30s when it was cotton fields. All of that makes it completely unsuitable for growing crops. There is also insufficient water for most crops, and the overall land size really isn't big enough for any large-scale production. It is excellent pasture land for cows to graze on, though.

you mention an important point: not every place on ear...

All Dead

Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:07 PM

Man

Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:03 AM

Of course vegetarianism is not the ultimate answer to life, universe and everything. A vegetarian diet still damages environment. Human life in general is not good for the environment. Living in total harmony with nature is not possible (supposing that we don't want to drastically reduce the world population and dissolve all the cities around the world). So, in my opinion, we should reduce the damage we do.
It is not possible to cover our requirements for meat without deforestation and factory farming. Just imagine the idea to supply e.g. new york with meat by raising in animals on meadows around the city. It's ludicrous. I think we all agree that factory farming is not what we want. So we have to lower our requirements.
The reason why vegetarianism is more sustainable than eating meat (talking about the average meat consumption) and less sustainable than veganism is a question of calculation. You need about ten times more food if you feed plants to animals and e...

EatShitAndCry

Posted 09 March 2012 - 02:37 PM

EatShitAndCry, on 05 October 2011 - 05:56 PM, said:

I'm in the process of becoming vegetarian. Don't buy this bs.

STILL GOING STRONG, MOTHERFUCKERS

Punk Rock Geek

Posted 09 March 2012 - 02:18 PM

Layne, on 09 March 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Once you finish reading this book please realize that there is absolutely no evident proof, or foot notes to support a lot of her claims. Lierre Keith had her spine problem long before she went vegan and the fact that she uses it to discredit veganism is a joke. Read this 30 page essay on localvore movements. It's brilliant. While you're at it read Peter Young's critique of her book. And before someone gets pissed about her being pied realize how hypocritical she is. Moments before this she was speaking about how we do not need law enforcement and how the police serve no purpose in anarchist circles, guess what happened the moment she got pied? She ca...

Posted 09 March 2012 - 01:56 AM

Once you finish reading this book please realize that there is absolutely no evident proof, or foot notes to support a lot of her claims. Lierre Keith had her spine problem long before she went vegan and the fact that she uses it to discredit veganism is a joke. Read this 30 page essay on localvore movements. It's brilliant. While you're at it read Peter Young's critique of her book. And before someone gets pissed about her being pied realize how hypocritical she is. Moments before this she was speaking about how we do not need law enforcement and how the police serve no purpose in anarchist circles, guess what happened the moment she got pied? She called the cops.

http://www.criticala...HAM-pp-8-32.pdf

MattFestle

Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:59 PM

i went vegetarian about 4 years ago. im pretty happy. and i'll stay this way.

Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:03 AM

Skaz, on 05 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

I've just been reading the intro to a book by Lierre Kieth called 'The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice and Sustainability'. I've been a vegetarian for 4 years but I no longer think it's actually sustainable. Decentralisation of food production, a return to polyculture and living in harmony with nature, rather than against it is the way to protect ourselves from catastrophe I think. I've been trying to wean myself back onto meat recently but it's proving difficult.

"...the first mistake is in assuming that factory farming—a practice that is barely fifty years old—is the only way to raise animals. Their calculations on ene...

USA Emigre

Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:31 PM

USA Emigre, on 11 January 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

...Move

Stop eating....

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USA Emigre

Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:27 PM

Some of those points are hard to deny, and I'll admit, even as a six year vegetarian, I hadn't even considered them before. I just kind of assumed that what I was doing (or not doing) was helping the environment as well as the cute furry animals. But for a lot of people, there are no other alternatives. A subway worker living in the heart of New York city can't exactly have their own sustainable farm. Whether they choose to eat meat or not, most of their food will come from corporate food conglomerates. So if they want to stop hurting the environment through what they eat, they can, a) Move

Stop eating. But there's not enough room on the planet for a) to be the solution for every person on it. So I guess we're all screwed. But I think being vegetarian, even if it...

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