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[NickSutton]

I mean really, what the fuck are all of your pussies problem here?
You call yourselves anarchists yet Socialism, which is even farther from anarchism than capitalism is, is highly exceptable in the "left"community.

I no longer call myself a leftist as I don't trust the scale, because it panders to people who rely on other people.
I will not help occupy anything, I do not want to reform this system, I want to destroy it.
You cannot reform me for I am ungovernable, and i'm sick of this "solidarity" shit you all try to grasp and hold firmly.
I do not need people telling me what I can or can't do, I do not need laws, I do not need protection, I do not need help.
What I need is a fire set to every socialist stake, because socialism is one step below totaltarianism on the staircase to societal imprisonment.
So fuck all of you fake anarchists who think there can be some kind of compromise, and fuck all of you idiots who think that any of these terms and conditions the occupiers of wall street can ever be met in the real world. It's going to take a little more than waving signs bitching about how you were outsmarted out of equality to get me to occupy wall street. If you really want to occupy wall street how about you march down with Kalashnicovs and molotovs.

[Punk Rock Geek]

You guys can have him.  I don't care.

[NickSutton]

Have me guys, all at once

[EatShitAndCry]

Punk Rock Geek, on 09 October 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

You guys can have him.  I don't care.

[All Dead]

NickSutton, on 09 October 2011 - 12:14 PM, said:

I mean really, what the fuck are all of your pussies problem here?
You call yourselves anarchists yet Socialism, which is even farther from anarchism than capitalism is, is highly exceptable in the "left"community.

I no longer call myself a leftist as I don't trust the scale, because it panders to people who rely on other people.
I will not help occupy anything, I do not want to reform this system, I want to destroy it.
You cannot reform me for I am ungovernable, and i'm sick of this "solidarity" shit you all try to grasp and hold firmly.
I do not need people telling me what I can or can't do, I do not need laws, I do not need protection, I do not need help.
What I need is a fire set to every socialist stake, because socialism is one step below totaltarianism on the staircase to societal imprisonment.
So fuck all of you fake anarchists who think there can be some kind of compromise, and fuck all of you idiots who think that any of these terms and conditions the occupiers of wall street can ever be met in the real world. It's going to take a little more than waving signs bitching about how you were outsmarted out of equality to get me to occupy wall street. If you really want to occupy wall street how about you march down with Kalashnicovs and molotovs.

lol
Such a rebel.

[Gibby]

[Marxist_Bastard]

Ugh, looks like I'll have to take this one since I'm a socialist and all.

You have some ultra-left views (amongst some super sectarian ones).  While I'd like to see a socialist revolution happen, you can't create one by marching down Wall Street with guns and Molotovs.  Do you really think that you or ten of you armed with those would actually make a positive difference?

I've been down to Liberty Square and first thing is that you'd all be shot dead by the 100 cops I saw there.

Then Fox News, the Democrats, and all the other right-wing parties would have a field day talking about left-wing terrorists.  And then you'd see public opinion drop and the movement could be dealt a death blow by that stupid tactic.

And where do I get this perspective?  Look back at the Homestead Strike of 1892 and read about this asshole industrialist named Henry Frick who ironically was a major prick.  Look at what happened after an anarchist took it upon himself to assassinate him in the middle of a massive strike:

http://en.wikipedia....e_of_the_strike

NickSutton, on 09 October 2011 - 12:14 PM, said:

I mean really, what the fuck are all of your pussies problem here?
You call yourselves anarchists yet Socialism, which is even farther from anarchism than capitalism is, is highly exceptable in the "left"community.

I no longer call myself a leftist as I don't trust the scale, because it panders to people who rely on other people.
I will not help occupy anything, I do not want to reform this system, I want to destroy it.
You cannot reform me for I am ungovernable, and i'm sick of this "solidarity" shit you all try to grasp and hold firmly.
I do not need people telling me what I can or can't do, I do not need laws, I do not need protection, I do not need help.
What I need is a fire set to every socialist stake, because socialism is one step below totaltarianism on the staircase to societal imprisonment.
So fuck all of you fake anarchists who think there can be some kind of compromise, and fuck all of you idiots who think that any of these terms and conditions the occupiers of wall street can ever be met in the real world. It's going to take a little more than waving signs bitching about how you were outsmarted out of equality to get me to occupy wall street. If you really want to occupy wall street how about you march down with Kalashnicovs and molotovs.

[Renan]

One man, one myth, one legend....

NickSutton, on 09 October 2011 - 12:14 PM, said:

I do not need protection, I do not need help.

PUNX AS FUX!

[NickSutton]

Here is something I wrote for someone on facebook about this whole occupy movement, it may not be very good for all you scholars and what not, but I thought it was decent


Joel you may have me mistaken me for a man of lesser intellect, maybe because of the way I look in my profile picture, so now i'm just going to have to go off on a tangent for you. I may not know what those terms mean but they're irrelevant. I do not need to know a few fancy buzzwords that are often unknown to the masses to try to grant the illusion I am intelligent. I am a common man and I use common words and phrases that anybody can grasp. I am not a capitalist, I am an anarchist, I am a fullgrown man and I don't need other grown men telling me what I can or cannot do, and certainly should not have to live in fear of having to spend my life in a cage had I broken one of the rules these men like to enforce upon us. This protest is about the inequality of monetary status in this country. Case and point why these people have no clue at all what they are talking about economically? They say they're against corporations and want mom and pop shops to prosper, yet they want a twenty dollar an hour minimum wage, which will in fact diminish the last bastions of the local shops. These whiny liberals and smelly hippies are just lazy losers who have a false sense of entitlement. They sit here and shout and yell about how corporations rule this world, but these corporations wouldn't even exist if these middle class babies weren't so materialistic. You people spend all your money on computers, cell phones, tvs, and xboxs then whine about how you can't afford a house because the companies you stimulate with your uninhibited cash flow aren't giving their fair share back to you guys in the form of taxs and that they aren't being fair about letting you into their clubs also known as "jobs". Or about how "you" bailed the banks out because you didn't bail shit out, the national treasury bailed the banks out. The fact you want to be repayed because the government gave its money to these people is absurd. I'm an anarchist and think that socialism, unless its autonomous, is the exact opposite way we should be going. Empowering the government even more over its citizens than it already is, is a horrible thing. Especially when the government is payed off by the rich to support their agenda. Have you never seen V for Vendetta? That was a socialst government. If that is what you want in a government then I hope you should know that our banners read only "behold your future executioners". I actually supported the occupy movement when I thought it was being led by anarachists (or at least leftists) then I went to a meeting and did a little research and figured out they were only hiding under a veil. They're really just a bunch of whiny, unintelligent centrists who think that they are somehow owed something for the mess they put myself as well as themselves in. Don't ask for the governments help against the corporations, destroy the governments and corporations. You may not have an iphone or an xbox anymore, but at least we'll be left to our own devises to create our future and pursue whatever we so choose. These corporations make so much money because they know how to take advantage of your almost ritualistic want for material gain. They know exactly how to fool you by offering you shiny new things that you do not need for your obedient obligatory consent. And people keep saying "these things were taken from us". No. They were handed over consentually by not only you, but your parents who were just as lustful over the thought of having more as the rich are. The rich just figured out a way to outsmart people by giving them some now and receiving more later. If you're looking for someone to blame you need only to look into a mirror. I used to think like you, but then I stopped listening to liberals who were oh so convincing with their very handsome words and compliments to the not so well off and how well together they put their speechs and propaganda. I took a step forward and realized how wrong I was, that I was doing the very same thing that the even more foolish fundamentalists of the right were doing. I thought I was thinking for myself before, but really I was just regurgitating the better smelling bullshit I willingly ate. If you really want to think for yourself stop taking stock in other peoples words and stop repeating the slogans you stole from your idols.

[NickSutton]

Renan, on 10 October 2011 - 12:44 PM, said:

One man, one myth, one legend....


PUNX AS FUX!

One sexy fuckin legend

[Renan]

NickSutton, on 11 October 2011 - 03:09 AM, said:

They say they're against corporations and want mom and pop shops to prosper, yet they want a twenty dollar an hour minimum wage, which will in fact diminish the last bastions of the local shops.

Why the fuck you are interested in protecting "the last bastions  of the local shops", if you are a anti-capitalist?
The mom and pop shops are part of the same economic system with the same social relations just like the big corporations, bro.

I work for a small bussiness owner, and it is quite clear to me that my production is much higher than my salary.

NickSutton, on 11 October 2011 - 03:09 AM, said:

Have you never seen V for Vendetta? That was a socialst government.

Why do leftists (mainly anarchists) love to mention V for Vendetta?

Why they think that what happens in this story has something to do with a real rev?

[NickSutton]

Renan, on 11 October 2011 - 08:45 AM, said:

Why the fuck you are interested in protecting "the last bastions  of the local shops", if you are a anti-capitalist?
The mom and pop shops are part of the same economic system with the same social relations just like the big corporations, bro.

I work for a small bussiness owner, and it is quite clear to me that my production is much higher than my salary.

Are you unable to keep up with simple concepts and ideas or something?
I said that was going against THEIR ideals.
THEY want to protect mom and pop shops, and I was quite simply saying that what they are demanding is going to destroy those and further the enhancement of corporations i.e. "Corporate greed"

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Why do leftists (mainly anarchists) love to mention V for Vendetta?

Why they think that what happens in this story has something to do with a real rev?

Because it is not only a very, very good movie. It shows the way socialism, if left to flourish in a non autonomous society, will be even more unjust and more corrupt than capitalism is. The enemy isn't the rich, the politicians, or corruption in and of itself. The enemy is authority, the enemy is telling one man that he can tell another man to do what is benificial for his agenda and if he doesn't obey there will be consequences. I don't understand how people are so blind to that very simple concept. People look for this, that, and the other reason as to why they are unhappy with life and how it should be changed, but the only way anything can change is if we either break up these tyrannical gangs or form larger gangs to combat them. If you don't understand what i'm saying Renan, then there is nothing I can do for you.

[Marxist_Bastard]

Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Neo-liberalism are all economic systems which have nothing to do with authority.

Libertarianism, anarchism, fascism, and...somewhere inbetweenism...are authority levels which have nothing to do with economics.

SO you can have a left-wing dictator like Stalin and then you can have a right-wing dictator like Pinochet or Franco.  You can have a right-libertarian like Ron Paul and it's actually fucking possible to be a libertarian socialist.

Seriously please go and read "State And Revolution"?  Even if you don't like Lenin because of Krondstat, it's still a very educational book.

Plus you can read the whole thing for free here: http://www.marxists..../1917/staterev/

[EatShitAndCry]

I just wanna quickly say: fuck England it is absolutely no better than America.