Why do we do it?
Do we have to do it in school?
(I'm not sure if this is the right forum)
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Pledge of Allegiance
Started by ditaxdeath, Jun 13 2009 12:55 PM
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 01:03 PM
Mainly to brainwash us from an early age. You don't have to say it. You don't even have to stand up. If they try to write you up for defiance or w/e, just tell them that you're gonna call the ACLU. They'll back off.
History is not something that happens to people--it is the activity of people. Culture does not dictate human behavior--it is the sum of human behavior. Technological progree is not a force of nature, either.
There is no civilization without civilizing, no capitalization without us capitalizing and capitulating.
There is no civilization without civilizing, no capitalization without us capitalizing and capitulating.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 02:33 PM
Decay153, on 13 June 2009 - 02:31 PM, said:
They make you mindlessly recite it so you don't know you are literally pledging allegiance to a flag.
It's horrible nationalistic brainwash in my opinion.
It's horrible nationalistic brainwash in my opinion.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."
It's right in the first line.
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 02:37 PM
Steve, on 13 June 2009 - 02:33 PM, said:
wut
"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."
It's right in the first line.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."
It's right in the first line.
I mean how ridiculous it is to pledge allegiance to an object; one only glorified for nationalistic reasons.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 03:40 PM
Steve, on 13 June 2009 - 02:33 PM, said:
wut
"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."
It's right in the first line.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."
It's right in the first line.
History is not something that happens to people--it is the activity of people. Culture does not dictate human behavior--it is the sum of human behavior. Technological progree is not a force of nature, either.
There is no civilization without civilizing, no capitalization without us capitalizing and capitulating.
There is no civilization without civilizing, no capitalization without us capitalizing and capitulating.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 05:34 PM
The Pledge of Allegiance seems like quite a bizarre concept for a somewhat free country.
"There is only one god and his name is Death. And there is only one thing we say to Death: 'Not today.'"
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 07:53 PM
Zane911, on 13 June 2009 - 07:15 PM, said:
We aren't really free, They have us say things like the pledge, to make us think we are the dominate country even though were not. No one is.
You don't legally have to, but at the age children are learning it everyone else is doing it with no hesitation.
Students should be informed of the right not to say the pledge of alegiance, because when your starting school I'm pretty damn sure fitting it is enough pressure so no one cares about what they are saying.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:36 PM
My friend and I would never stand for the pledge, so are teacher (republican IDIOT) told us to show some respect for the people who died for the flag. Our answer: people died for the swastika. He didn't like that very much.
Indiscriminate in rage, we may not issue our demands.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:38 PM
JohnWayneWasANazi, on 13 June 2009 - 08:36 PM, said:
My friend and I would never stand for the pledge, so are teacher (republican IDIOT) told us to show some respect for the people who died for the flag. Our answer: people died for the swastika. He didn't like that very much.
"There is only one god and his name is Death. And there is only one thing we say to Death: 'Not today.'"
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:39 PM
Gibby, on 13 June 2009 - 08:38 PM, said:
Surely the people died for the country and the people in it rather than the flag, no?
Indiscriminate in rage, we may not issue our demands.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:39 PM
JohnWayneWasANazi, on 13 June 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:
You've never been to America, have you?
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:41 PM
Gibby, on 13 June 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:
I have. I went on Space Mountain. It was fun.
Indiscriminate in rage, we may not issue our demands.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:42 PM
JohnWayneWasANazi, on 13 June 2009 - 08:41 PM, said:
That was the first roller coaster I ever went on!
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:52 PM
My point is that most people here could give a shit about the people in America or the government. They're just nationalists who would fight for the flag and the name America.
Indiscriminate in rage, we may not issue our demands.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
If we are dogs, then we will bite you wherever we can.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 11:54 PM
It is really bizzare for a free country. I say the pledge so I dont stir the pot with my friends and my teachers I respect. But I definately do not believe in what it says. Its an attempt at indoctrinating little kids into thinking were the best people in the world. Its Bullshit.
"I think it only makes sense to seek out and identify structures of authority, hierarchy, and domination in every aspect of life, and to challenge them. Unless a justification for them can be given, they are illegitimate, and should be dismantled, to increase the scope of human freedom."
-Noam Chomsky
"Books are the carriers of civilization. Without books, history is silent, literature dumb, science crippled, thought and speculation at a standstill. I think that there is nothing, not even crime, more opposed to poetry, to philosophy, ay, to life itself than this incessant business."
-Henry David Thoreau
-Noam Chomsky
"Books are the carriers of civilization. Without books, history is silent, literature dumb, science crippled, thought and speculation at a standstill. I think that there is nothing, not even crime, more opposed to poetry, to philosophy, ay, to life itself than this incessant business."
-Henry David Thoreau
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 11:59 PM
No Pax Without PaxWarriors, on 13 June 2009 - 11:54 PM, said:
It is really bizzare for a free country. I say the pledge so I dont stir the pot with my friends and my teachers I respect. But I definately do not believe in what it says. Its an attempt at indoctrinating little kids into thinking were the best people in the world. Its Bullshit.
No offence here man...but grow a backbone. You dont believe in it? make a stand
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 12:29 AM
It's funny at my school I'd have to say maybe only 10 people in my class say the pledge. I for one am not saying it. I don't think people are not saying it becuase they don't believe in it but they're just lazy and don't want to. XD lol
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter."-Martin Luther King Jr.
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