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[NICKxSUTTON]

Steve, on 06 June 2009 - 06:33 PM, said:

Not at the moment, no. I got fired from my last job, and I'm in the process of finding a new one.

What is your point?

if you had a job and anarchy set in would you still work your old job. be realistic dont just say yes for the sake of arguement

[James]

Steve, on 06 June 2009 - 06:33 PM, said:

Not at the moment, no. I got fired from my last job, and I'm in the process of finding a new one.

What is your point?

Lazy people like you are why anarchy wouldn't work.

[Gibby]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:34 PM, said:

if you had a job and anarchy set in would you still work your old job. be realistic dont just say yes for the sake of arguement

I'm not an anarchist but for the sake of the argument...

I would still be working. Anarchists still need petrol

[Steve]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:34 PM, said:

if you had a job and anarchy set in would you still work your old job. be realistic dont just say yes for the sake of arguement

Perhaps part time. I would rather do something I enjoyed. There were certainly some people that enjoyed for the most part working in a grocery store, I did not.

Edit: Upon further consideration, I would probably become an electrician or do construction work. I enjoy both of those types of work and it's definitely needed. However, I still don't see how any of this is relevant. Work is a fucked up institution, and capitalism creates tons of pointless jobs that won't be around after the revolution.

[NICKxSUTTON]

James, on 06 June 2009 - 06:34 PM, said:

Lazy people like you are why anarchy wouldn't work.

no you guys arent thinking of anarchy you are thinking of a utopia its completelty different. and no im not lazy things would be completely different without money people love material things too much this day and age so getting what they need instead of what they want will not sit well with them. i dont know where you guys are getting you definitions of anarchy from but it definatley aint from the punx comunity.

[James]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:39 PM, said:

i dont know where you guys are getting you definitions of anarchy from but it definatley aint from the punx comunity.

Why would we get definitions of political ideologies from the 'punx community'?

[NICKxSUTTON]

James, on 06 June 2009 - 06:41 PM, said:

Why would we get definitions of political ideologies from the 'punx community'?

im not saying what you guys are throwing out there wouldnt be nice. im just saying with the way people think it wouldnt be realistic.

[Steve]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:39 PM, said:

no you guys arent thinking of anarchy you are thinking of a utopia its completelty different. and no im not lazy things would be completely different without money people love material things too much this day and age so getting what they need instead of what they want will not sit well with them. i dont know where you guys are getting you definitions of anarchy from but it definatley aint from the punx comunity.

The "punx community" is what has ruined anarchism in North America. It's been turned into this ridiculous nonsense of punk shows and stupid outfits. Anarchism IS NOT A SUBCULTURE. It is a philosophy based around class struggle.

[Steve]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:42 PM, said:

im not saying what you guys are throwing out there wouldnt be nice. im just saying with the way people think it wouldnt be realistic.

Boy, it has worked. Multiple times.

[NICKxSUTTON]

Steve, on 06 June 2009 - 06:44 PM, said:

The "punx community" is what has ruined anarchism in North America. It's been turned into this ridiculous nonsense of punk shows and stupid outfits. Anarchism IS NOT A SUBCULTURE. It is a philosophy based around class struggle.

thats communism

[Gibby]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:

thats communism

So only communists are involved in a class war? :facepalm:

[Steve]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:

thats communism

Communism is the goal every anarchist strives for.

[NICKxSUTTON]

Steve, on 06 June 2009 - 06:45 PM, said:

Boy, it has worked. Multiple times.

ok lets say anarchy happens what about the people who dont want it to happen who refuse to let it happen. example Kim Jong Ill you think with them nukes hes gonna succumb to anarchy. for all the people who oppose anarchy what are you gonna do... kill em. sounds a little like capitilism to me.

[NICKxSUTTON]

Steve, on 06 June 2009 - 06:50 PM, said:

Communism is the goal every anarchist strives for.

some anarchists could wanna just be on theyre own just making theyre way kinda like the amish.

[Steve]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:51 PM, said:

ok lets say anarchy happens what about the people who dont want it to happen who refuse to let it happen. example Kim Jong Ill you think with them nukes hes gonna succumb to anarchy. for all the people who oppose anarchy what are you gonna do... kill em. sounds a little like capitilism to me.

Do you think the ruling class is going to go quietly? There is a reason why it's called Class War.

[Steve]

NICKxSUTTON, on 06 June 2009 - 06:52 PM, said:

some anarchists could wanna just be on theyre own just making theyre way kinda like the amish.

What's from stopping them after the revolution?

[John]

What will destroy the ruling class is when the world reaches it's breaking point, when there is no food and no goods for the masses of people and we decide as a whole to no longer recognize their wealth and to take what is ours.

That's the double edge sword of state socialism, it gives the poor a bit more but it reverses the path to the breaking point. And only temporarily until it is corrupted and overthrown.

[Decay153]

teenagegluesniffer, on 06 June 2009 - 03:38 PM, said:

We will have a lot of pollution no matter what.
There is no reason to force people to spend more money on that, it's a terrible idea considering that people don't have any extra money right now.
What's wrong with being oil-dependent? We have a large supply here in the US that we could be using. We're also able to make oil from different things.

That's completely ignorant of the impact our society has.
Oil causes us to rely on unstable regions (regardless how unstable, not from our own resources), and is among the nonrenewable resources that will constantly deplete with reliance.

Why shouldn't we strive to progress with innovative clean & renewable energy?
Reducing pollution, reducing reliance on a resource that is nonrenewable and relies on places we have no control over; isn't that common sense?

Isn't reducing the harm we do, the risk we must live with, essential to basic progress?

[Decay153]

John, on 06 June 2009 - 08:51 PM, said:

What will destroy the ruling class is when the world reaches it's breaking point, when there is no food and no goods for the masses of people and we decide as a whole to no longer recognize their wealth and to take what is ours.

That's the double edge sword of state socialism, it gives the poor a bit more but it reverses the path to the breaking point. And only temporarily until it is corrupted and overthrown.

Exactly!

[thecoalition]

John, on 06 June 2009 - 08:51 PM, said:

What will destroy the ruling class is when the world reaches it's breaking point, when there is no food and no goods for the masses of people and we decide as a whole to no longer recognize their wealth and to take what is ours.

That's the double edge sword of state socialism, it gives the poor a bit more but it reverses the path to the breaking point. And only temporarily until it is corrupted and overthrown.

BINGOOOOOO!!!!